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persian gulf in arabic newspaper .persian gulf<#hits#> again

National Geographic  report on history of persian gulf and did call it  again the

this is her report on  Persian Gulf...

 

 در خصوص ترجمه این کتاب به زبان انگلیسی و عربی از هموطنان تقاضای یاری داریم

تصویر روی جلد و پشت جلد نقشه یکی از ۱۰ نقشه معروفی است که بطور همزمان دریای عرب را با نام دریای پارسpersian sea و خلیج فارس را با نام خلیج فارس ثبت کرده اند البته ما دریای پارس را سالها است که به دریای عرب تغییر داده ایم حالا مانده است از آن اقیانوس پارس یک خلیج  در جنوب غربی ایران که ناسیونال فاشیستهای عرب به آنهم گیر داده اند .

Dear all PGTF
 
as you know arabic newspaper sharq al owsat is the  most important arabic newspaper publishing in more than  30 countries similtaniously . the writters are all very famous and most of them ex ministers or high rank officials ,there are 3 news and 4 articales on it during 1  month past  about persian gulf name and some comment on it and .
main point of this 4 article is this:

1-geoghraphical name are  not as important as some iranian are sensetive to it .
2-  geoghraphical name have no permenet  ID and are  due to be changed according to the reality as the bahre roum , mamlekat fars . blad ajam , soviet union ....that  have been changed and not exist any more.
3- those who had called the gulf persian gulf they had ignored west part of the gulf that have been resident of arabs befor Ariyan persian occupation??!!2500years ago??!!
4- historicaly the gulf had been named by arabs and others as persian gulf but this not means that it must remain as a holy unchangeable name for ever.
5- expansionist and pride ( kebria) policy of persian majus had been always with Iranian   wether Shah or iranian shia moullahs
6- Iranian can use the nam and we use our name
7- we will never oppose them of using persian gulf and they must not force us to obay that name
8- iranian nationalist are very racist and look to arabs as inferior and degrade insult arabs all the time.
9- there is persian side of the gulf and arabian side so it is persian/arabian gulf
10- iran must not use historical maps for political use
11- there are many geoghraphical name in the world with 2 or more diferent name and all respected country respect and treat these name as equail  like mansh and british chanel.both side use both name
12- why iranian becom so angry when ever they hear arabian gulf ? is not koran in arabic and prophet mohammad and imams all arabs?what is wrong or harmful to iranian who can not tolerate a name ?
14- kareston neibur and rodrico owen as pioneer europian had recognized  that the best name  fit to the region is arabian gulf because of the cost all populated by arabs .
15- khomeiny sugested islamic gulf but iranian racist nationalist full of persian pride  rejected this 

16- mollas are using this term to satisfy their safvid dreams. if you have any answear please go to their site an comment .
more:http://farsi-arabi.persianblog.ir/

www.parssea.persianblog.ir
www.asharqalawsat.com

persian gulf for ever has apeared in the most famouse arabic newspaper sharq al awsat

  

 

rashid
persian gulf
02/01/2005
i had read this comment and i am ashamed of many of this unlogic comments of ours brothers who call themself arabs i am sorry to say we had started to replace a historical name that has been used by all arabs as khaleej fars and bahre fars befor 1957 to arabian gulf if we want to change it it is ok but in arabic language. this is racist policy to force other culture and language to follow us
غضب إیران أو سوریة سواء فی التصریح أو فی السلوک, فضبط النفس لدیهما على درجة کبیرة لأنهما تقرآن ما بین السطور وما یدور تحت الطاولة.
The name of the Gulf was always the Persian Gulf and it was clear that the reason for changing the name to Arabic Gulf was due to Naser and his national movement. The logic of ownership of a water entity has never been in the iranian minds. So the logic and the examples given by the writer are invalid . Is he saying Mexico should take the whole ownership of the Gulf of Mexico etc. The arabs are the guilty party by giving themself the right to change one whole Gulf due to nationalism reasons. The current prime minister and his defense ministers of iraq are in temprory positions so iran does not have to reply
 
persian gulf for ever
uae
04/01/2005
since one year ago i am reading your article there is no logic and no reson to prove your claim and the same is with the comments always are the same it is comming from few people with diffrent name for example khanjar shie have been copied from previous article and paste it to this one
give us new thing and prove your claim with documents
as iranian are doing they will never claim any thing without enough document
i am an iranian but had allways recepected arabs as good people the problems is coming from our leaders

 

 A recent Kuwait Times news-story announced a $4.5m gift to Georgeِِ

Washington University's Institute for Middle East Studies, courtesy of the Government of Kuwait. On the face of it this piece of news is less than newsworthy; endowed Chairs and research institutes supported by Middle Eastern governments with dubious human rights records and illusive academic credentials have become the bloodline of Middle East and Islamic Studies at America's leading universities. Harvard and Georgetown are beneficiaries of tens of millions of dollars in grants from such renowned donors as the House of Saud, Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, the al-Nahayan Charitable and Humanitarian Foundation, and the Bin Laden dynasty—all, incidentally, affiliated with states notorious for their poor Human Rights records. Likewise are Princeton, Columbia and Cornell recipients of donations from morally repugnant Middle Eastern regimes. The recent flurry of news about distinguished American academics lending their influence and expertise to burnish the less than savory reputation of Middle Eastern despots—a scheme Tufts University's Daniel W. Drezner termed "Scholars for Dollars"—is only the latest manifestation of this trend.[1] And so, George Washington's latest gift from Kuwait's al-Sabbaah dynasty is arguably another attempt by a "first among equals" at keeping up with the Joneses.

To be fair, universities solicit and receive grants from a variety of sources, most of them reputable and legitimate, philanthropic in nature, often with no strings attached; others with less than innocent intents, meant to curry favor and influence pre-determined outcomes. But even when university gifts stem from altruistic impulses—with the greater good and the advancement of knowledge as lodestars—they can be cause for alarm and can potentially taint an academic institution and prejudice its mission.

A case in point is the way in which the Kuwaiti Government—one of the world's worst human trafficking offenders[2]—spun its recent George Washington University donation for media and public relations gains, both in the US and at home. The Kuwait Times spoke with swagger of a longstanding "distinctive and solid" relationship between the Kuwaiti Government and George Washington University; it flaunted the fact that GW had awarded the Emir of Kuwait an Honorary Doctorate of Law in 2005, and claimed the university had established a Kuwait Chair to conduct "research and studies on the  Gulf region."[3]

Laughable and false as it may sound, the phrase "Arabian Gulf" is perhaps not much cause for concern; especially when GW's homepage defined the Chair in question as one devoted explicitly to the study of the "Gulf and Arabian Peninsula Affairs;" an artful choice of semantics that heeded the donor's dislikes—by omitting the adjective in "Persian Gulf"—and maintained for the university a modicum of academic integrity by feigning to indulge an "Arabian Gulf" fantasy. Still, this is a slippery slope in an academic field already fraught with emotions and ideological rivalries, and one long mired in political advocacy.

Speaking of the Persian Empire's importance during antiquity, the appellationSinus Persicus (today, the "Persian Gulf") reflects a very old usage, one going back to Strabo (64BC-AD24), perhaps even to earlier Classical Greek and later Roman geographers. Even tenth century Arab cartographers, and Arabic-language maps in more recent times, have referred to the Persian Gulf as "Khaliij Faaris" ("the Gulf of Persia"), seemingly unbothered by its non-Arab pedigree. In 1917, the US State Department's Board of Geographical Names designated the Persian Gulf as the sole official name of the region in question.[4] The United Nations followed suit in 1975 and again in 1984.[5] Yet, it was recently revealed that the United States Navy has been using the term "A.rabian Gulf" for decades, "out of deference for US allies in the region."[6]"Our [Arab] partners […] use [the Arabian Gulf], and so do we," said US Navy spokesman Lt. Myers Vasquez.[7]

Whether driven by ideological or pragmatic concerns, indulging such falsities and bowing to the neuroses of one's political partners can have dire consequences; especially when the partners in question are known practitioners of cultural suppression, oppression of minorities, historical revisionism, and rejection of minority narratives.

Seemingly bland terms such as "the Arabian Gulf" (or even the "Arab world," to name another of Arab nationalism's favored ideological talismans) are misleading at best. The "Arab Middle East"—an inaccurate construct, again "out of deference for US allies in the region"—is home to an estimated population of 300 million people.. Among them are 15 million Kurds, 15 million Copts, 25 million Berbers, 7 million Jews, and tens of millions of Armenians, Southern Sudanese, Maronites, Assyrians, and others, all of whom non-and outmoded Arab colonArab "users" of a slew of Arabic-defined languages. Yet American political expediency, moral abdication—or "deference for US allies in the region"—seem unworried by this kind of pandering to Arabist assumptions ialist models.

Albeit a Western coinage, colonialism and imperialism are not exclusively Western. And although they were wars waged against Muslims, the Crusades and Reconquista were delayed defensive endeavors, not colonial enterprises, and not a prelude to modern European Colonialism—as is often the portrayal in remorseful Western narratives.[8] Conquest and colonialism have, instead, been salient chapters in Muslim history (from the seventh century Arabians, to the fifteenth century Ottomans), and Muslim colonialists preceded their European charges down that path by close to a millennium.[9] The Iberian Peninsula, Central Eurasia, Western Asia, the Fertile Crescent, and Northern Africa were home to venerable civilizations prior to the Muslim-Arab conquests of the seventh century. What came to be called the "Arab world" during the twentieth century is anything but an exclusively Arab preserve. Pluralism and multiplicity of identities have been hallmarks of Middle Eastern history for millennia—even as modern Arabists seek to blur this reality. The Brill Encyclopedia of Arabic Language and Linguistics writes that prior to the Arab conquests of the seventh century the region now misleadingly labeled the "Arab world"

had hosted many other cultures, including the Sumerians, Babylonians, Assyrians, Phoenicians, Ancient Egyptians, Persians, Greeks, and Romans. […] The legacies of these pre-Islamic peoples and cultures did not all simply disappear with the advent of the Muslim Arabs. […] Peoples of the region resisted the forces of Arabicization, Islamicization, or both, [and] earlier cultures [have remained, alongside] groups convinced that their ancestors belonged to a people different from [the "Arabs".][10]

Yet, the Arab colonialist view of a cohesive uniform "Arab world," denuded of its pre-Arab heritage, seeps into America's official, academic, and popular Middle Eastern discourse. Never mind that a good third of Middle Easterners are not Arab; never mind that they still use languages and partake of collective memories distinct from those of Arabs; and never mind that their national names, place-names, and parameters of identity are explicitly non-Arab. The Arab die is cast, and "deference for US allies in the region" seems to justify shedding historical clarity and shirking academic decency.

Syro-Lebanese poet Adonis recently offered a devastating appraisal of this worldview. The image of the universe that Arabs have built around themselves and the political culture they spawned, he wrote, are completely closed to the outside world; Arabs and Arab nationalists are resentful, scornful, and loath to diversity.[11] Theirs is "a kind of culture, […] where the 'other' is Evil, Hell, Satan […] and where distinctness and plurality are rejected out of hand."[12]This is the monolithic Middle East that is being legitimized and intellectualized at America's leading universities today; a Middle East where the millenarian "Persian Gulf" is re-christened "Arabian," where a rich tapestry of cultures is deemed a uniform "Arab world," and where ancient pre-Arab peoples who so much as mutter]an idiom resembling "Arabic" are summarily anointed "Arabs."

by Franck Salameh
March 22, 2011 at 4:30 am

http://www.hudson-ny.org/1977/arabian-gulf